Fins

Yes, I do have great disdain for Elon, he's an absolutely terrible human being. Thanks for digging it up.

You may define "extremely high" at any level you want, but you don't get to claim that Tesla is shorted to any kind of unusual, extreme, never seen before level. None of those companies gets to claim that "it's all shorts' fault" either.

You driving a Tesla probably affects me positively (well, apart from the taxpayer fleecing angle anyway), but the complete lack of intellectual honesty on the part of Tesla supporters is... not even annoying, it's rather amusing. Where else do you get to see people seriously claiming that it is more convenient and safer to hunt and peck several buttons on a touch screen that pressing one on a door? Only in Tesla world!

I always knew there were good reasons I prefer Audi.

Although to be honest, if not for the unconscionable amount of money they (or Navteq, I guess) asks for map updates, I'd be even happier just using the built-in navigation all the time.

Aren't instances of sexism, misogynism and threatening situations coming from RMS himself and going back decades numerous and well-documented at this point?

Sorry, but what is wrong with working for the US military in the grand scheme of things? Would Russian or Chinese military be a preferred option?

Certainly seems to me to be far preferable to working for Facebook or Google or something like that.

Whether she is a nobody or not, it should not come as a surprise that for 99.(9)% of humanity, all of us here, as well as RMS are just as much nobodies.

There is no "insane short interest" in Tesla. Just because Elon might want you to think that it is some nefarious conspiracy and not Tesla's incompetency in many aspects of making a car (pretty much anything pother than making the best available electric powertrain, really) and his personal douchebaggery that are causing problems. That canard about Tesla being the most shorted stock on the planet since the beginning of times has been debunked so many times it's not evenv interesting anymore.

I have no interest in discussing your intelligence, but but once you start bringing out "shortseller fud" your credibility goes straight out of the window. Even claiming that Elon is behaving like a jerk because he's hiding from hit squads hired by Saudi Aramco would be both more plausible and make more sense.

Can we please stop with ridiculous BS about evil shortsellers? Would you believe that it's martians spreading "fud" about Tesla, if Elon says so? And that would be at least as accurate as the shorts nonsense.

What really needs to stop is the fanboi narrative of "I drive my glorious Tesla like that (and damn the compriomises) so YOU BETTER LOVE IT TOO, AAARGGGHHHH!!!!!!"

If it works for your roadtrips, great. For mine it doesn't, and anyone telling me that I should enjoy spending an hour in some crummy location in the middle of nowhere waiting for the thing to charge (but only to 80%, or your battery will lose capacity!) are probably the same people who enjoy Elon's fart jokes.

Then why do current Audis have perfectly fine Android Auto integration?

Well, after I drove one I liked it even less. But if some people enjoy paying Mercedes prices for Yugo quality, all the power to them. Although regularly driving into firetrucks costs us as taxpayers money. But then fleecing taxpayers is the major part of Tesla's marketing anyway.

Or maybe, while they certainly can and should think and talk about ethical implications of their work, just like everyone else, we as the public should pay far less attention to it. Because really, being able to "invert a binary tree on a whiteboard", which is the selection criteria for companies that have them working on the most "impactful" projects does NOT by itself make one's opinion on any ethical (or any other, really) matter more valid or important than that of a guy flipping your burger or bagging your groceries.

Especially when most of that moral posturing comes not to even leaving your company to work (at still a very comfortable salary, mind you!) somewhere else, but to protesting mostly minor and inconsequential (and to most of the country, if we're talking about SV and US, quite unobjectionable) things while happily working on projects that actually do have some pretty damning ethical implications (viz. pretty much any Google protest).

Because every place that did implement socialism did SUCH a great job of preventing pollution and protecting nature!

As they say, the only thing History teaches us is that History teaches us nothing.

So, with a few exceptions, making a few billions of dollars through some less than ethical shenanigans makes you admired by the Hired crowd.

Good to know.

Brin isn't of Polish descent, so "cz" would be an unusual transcription.

Not the OP, but maybe, whatever his achievements (which mostly include suing his way into being listed as a founder of something he did not found), "pedo guy", as it were, shouldn't really be the most admired person, even among a crowd as sorely lacking in ethics as "tech professionals".