Driverswanted

What on earth do you mean. Have you ever bought a car?

You negotiate the price you are willing to pay. The dealer has no idea if you are leasing, paying cash, or financing. The all-in price is either financed or leased at a specified interest rate. They do not "add in" an up front payment. That doesn't even make sense, and would be incredibly misleading.

If we negotiate $25,000 for the car,and I finance at 0%, you are saying they up the price to $27,500 to "build in a profit"? Nonsense. The numbers are in front of you and you can do the calculations yourself with high school math. 0% is 0%.

You are totally out of your element and shouldnt be providing financial advice. Maybe that's why the dealer rips you off.

Amen. Much of hackernews fails to understand that some people love driving.

Car culture is huge thing. I just bought an Audi S3, and derive pleasure whenever I hit the throttle.

Being as how you can finance a new car for 0% interest, why would you pay cash? Sounds like you're giving terrible advice.

They don't have orders, they have refundable deposits.

How many are converting? Elon would not say on the call. Why?