Cimpresovec

Yeah I understand it's easier to make it run everywhere but more choices would be nice. Yeah VSE only runs on Windows, that is one of the many negatives about it.

Yeah the original was, but many following that weren't "full screen". As I said it's a personal preference. I did hear that Pharo is working on something like that so I hope it will be implemented soon.

I thought that Dolphin was not developed anymore, that is nice to hear. I'll have to check it out again. Which of the two would you recommend?

It's probably a personal thing but the main point is this: - Pharo and Squeak are both one full screen application with their own window manager inside. And that window manager is terrible and slow. I can't even alt-tab between windows. The old "Visual SmallTalk Enterprise 3.1" from 95 leverages all window handling to the OS and is quick and snappy. It also has a native look if that is your thing. This contributes a lot to the developer experience: shortcuts and code completion are quick and snappy, you can easily deal with the separate windows, etc. In Pharo everything is so slow compared to this and not very developer friendly. Maybe someone can show me what I have been doing wrong but this is my main gist.

I still develop in Smalltalk almost daily. It's a very productive environment and a godsend regarding debugging and inspecting live running application. The caveat is nonexistent support on our old version.

Also after having checked various "modern" Smalltalk implementations I have to sadly say that none come close to the experience of the older ones. Maybe Cincom, but that is proprietary. So the whole language and idea is mostly dead.