BUGHUNTER
Joined 14 years ago
Joined 14 years ago
For future generations this is a total catastrophe - reducing the available food genpool is is the maximal possible damage you could apply to the human kind.
This is not a theoretical scenario - india has lost big parts of it´s genpool for many food plants since the indian government is pushing gmo company products. The results are a complete disaster today, but this is just a foretaste what will happen on a global scale in a few years. Especially Africa, now beeing invaded by mega-industrial agro-projects backed by hedgefonds, will be hurt massively in the coming years.
Local seeds are of immeasurable value - it is conserved knowledge of hundreds, sometimes thousands of years that is deleted forever, when a variety disappears. This are not "failed experiments of nature" that vanish not able to survive the test of life - instead we are actively eradicating very good functioning and over a very long time optimized varieties, just because of some short-term experiment, that usually fails, and was only motivated by short-term profit-think.
GMOs are not "evil" or "good" - it´s the extremely short-sighted and brutally enforced business-model that translates the totally stupid short-term profit-think into very destructive consequences for global biodiversity.
It is a repeating marketing pattern to claim "scientists" are "pro gmo" - but many scientists are not pro gmo, nor "anti" gmo, they just do some research in this field and some of them come to results that are not validating monsanto or gmo industry claims.
see e.g. http://www.gmwatch.org/index.php/news/archive/2013/15156-ove...
It is not easy nowadays to do independent research, as the gmo companies are controlling the knowledge market heavily and there is a very high chance that you will be attacked and even lose your fundings or your job if your research might be interpreted as beeing "anti-gmo", no matter what your personal intentions about gmo are - this happened several times.
The "gmos are bad / good" discussion, however, becomes irrelevant looking at the business model of gmo companies - it is much easier to judge from that point of view.
http://earthopensource.org/index.php/reports/gmo-myths-and-t...
http://earthopensource.org/index.php/reports/gmo-myths-and-t...
if you want to understand better, take some time and dig into http://gmwatch.org
It is unbelievable how many people that read "HN" - obviously considering themselves beeing "Hackers" - are not able to understand the basic requirements of a real hacker (TM) note taking app:
- it has to be open source - you do not want to hand over your personal notes to some unknown company and their decision making process, maybe they will just disappear or not support their product anymore.
- it has to have an open and good documented data format - you do not want your notes to disappear in an undocumented binary blob.
- if there is any way to sync data with other instances / machines, the sync server of course has to be open sourced and available for usage on your own server.
- of course some more functional things like versioning via git and it has to be lightning fast.
This is for the "cool hackers" that are STILL using services like dropbox, evernote or onenote. Learn it: these services are for uneducated people who did not understand anything. Please do not hurt the eyes of HN readers with advertising these anti-privacy services here, thanks!
So instead of a guaranteed right to access information freely we make every mesh node a potential censor.
I do not want to depend on the likes or dislikes of mesh participants to be able to access or distribute information.
Here seems something fundamentally broken by design. I hope, I am misunderstanding the concept.
[1] http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929294.500-meshnet-a...
Disconnected knowledge-islands with people not knowing about already existing solutions to problems they are trying to solve seems to be one downside of scattered communities.
Decentralization is needed for private communication, but there are downsides - creating x parallel nets will not help in finding each others - the knowledge evolution of the internet is driven by the desire of the human brain to connect all available information.
Imagine the NSA decided to create an open and freely available API to the centralized information they have collected - good-minded people certainly will extract useful knowledge from that data, possibly world-changing new ways of thinking about everything could be the results.
The human brain wants this central intelligence (the real one, not the agency) to solve the evolutionary problems we are confronted with today - it must be seen as an ironical evidence of this need that the first biggest data collections that might be useful for all humans on this planet are collected exclusively by paranoid psychopaths to have better tools for control and oppression.
But even if misused, it does happen - the human brain wants to connect. It will not be happy with decentralized knowledge - it is the reason, why the internet exists and it will not want to go back.
This does not mean that decentralized networks are a bad thing in itself (as I said before, needed for private talk urgently!), but it means that we need some information harvesting entity that makes it easy to connect.
It is not only marketing what makes google and facebook so successful - it is the biological meta-programming of our brains that make us want to use these possibilities to connect to the global information pool.
The global brain is the destination - of course it should be untouchable by insane sadist that want to control our life. This evolutionary force will lead to social changes - it does already.
Re-Decentralizing the internet, from this point of view, only postpones the real challenge: build technical and social systems, that can not be misused or at least make it easier to detect and eliminate misuse - we have already concepts for this, we need to apply. Real-life IDS will warn you if you consume fake information or are following the wrong leaders (or if you are following at all). Real-life social SIEM will prevent a group of people misusing the system just for their own profits. Most probably "profit" will be an ancient word that will be remembered only with shame, like being confronted with the primitive life of our ancestors, that were living in caves.
Decentralization will not rescue us from our duty to expand participation.
I was hoping for an open, easily available information source that can be followed.