AndyKelley
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Comment · 3 months ago
Now you've misquoted me. Actual quote[1] is: "This appears to be an outright fabrication."
To quote yourself[2], "The honest thing to do is acknowledge that you were mistaken and apologize for the false accusation."
Are you going to do that for me now?
I don't expect you to, because I don't think you are being dishonest. I think you are earnestly trying to untangle the facts from two parties for whom you have no bias one way or the other, which is commendable.
Like you, I am an individual attempting to paint an accurate picture of reality for my readers.
Anthropic, on the other hand, is not an individual nor trying to be accurate. They are doing exactly as they are supposed to: maximizing value for shareholders. To do this, they need to make this rewrite appear successful, so they need to retcon this idea that they were doing good engineering practices in their zig codebase the whole time, including fuzzing, even though that is not the case.
[1]: https://github.com/andrewrk/andrewkelley.me/blob/c39f868e578...
[2]: https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]/11689618811296...
Comment · 4 months ago
happy pride month
Comment · 4 months ago
1. he's not a billionaire in large part due to giving away large amounts of wealth
2. would you rather allow a small number of people 10x more wealthy than Mitchell dictate our laws and culture, or would you prefer a more democratic approach?
Comment · 5 months ago
If you decide to try this, feel free to share your progress and struggles on IRC, ziggit, or ZSF zulip. Plenty of people would be interested in helping out.
Good luck and happy hacking!
Comment · 6 months ago
my implication is that you are projecting - believing that because something is true for you, it is therefore true for other people.
zsf team is perfectly capable of implementing compiler optimizations.
Comment · 6 months ago
First I was naive to believe I could make a new programming language, then I was naive to believe it would be anything but a toy project, then I was naive to believe that we could make our own backends for debug mode, now I'm naive to believe that we can add optimizations to the pipeline. It's getting old. Just because you lack the creativity, willpower, and work ethic to accomplish something, doesn't mean I do.
Comment · 6 months ago
your links don't back up your claims
Comment · 6 months ago
You know, I used to be annoyed by all your consistently shitty remarks in any zig related HN thread, but these days, it's refreshing to have an unpleasant interaction with a human.
Sincerely, thanks for all your hand-written hatred.
Comment · 7 months ago
looks like llm written trash
Comment · 7 months ago
it's crap. you all need to go outside
Comment · 7 months ago
I used Node.js extensively for about a decade, both professionally and as a hobby. I don't buy the problem statement.
These arguments don't even make sense, they look LLM generated. I can't even formulate a disagreement against this nonsense.
Comment · 7 months ago
Originally, Zig's type system was less disciplined in terms of the "zero" type (also known as "noreturn").
This was proposed, discussed, and accepted here: https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/3257
Later, Matthew Lugg made a follow-up proposal, which was discussed both publicly and in ZSF core team meetings. https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/15909
He writes:
> A (fairly uncontroversial) subset of this behavior was implemented in [the changeset we are discussing]. I'll close this for now, though I'll probably end up revisiting these semantics more precisely at some point, in which case I'll open a new issue on Codeberg.
I don't know how evident this is to the casual HN reader, but to me this changeset very obviously moves Zig the language from experimental territory a large degree towards being formally specified, because it makes type resolution a Directed Acyclic Graph. Just look at how many bugs it resolved to get a feel for it. This changeset alone will make the next release of the compiler significantly more robust.
Now, I like talking about its design and development, but all that being said, Zig project does not aim for full transparency. It says right there in the README:
> Zig is Free and Open Source Software. We welcome bug reports and patches from everyone. However, keep in mind that Zig governance is BDFN (Benevolent Dictator For Now) which means that Andrew Kelley has final say on the design and implementation of everything.
It's up to you to decide whether the language and project are in trustworthy hands. I can tell you this much: we (the dev team) have a strong vision and we care deeply about the project, both to fulfill our own dreams as well as those of our esteemed users whom we serve[1]. Furthermore, as a 501(c)(3) non-profit we have no motive to enshittify.
[1]: https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#Zen
It's been incredible working with Matthew. I hope I can have the pleasure to continue to call him my colleague for many years to come.
Comment · 8 months ago
It's not a great tip because there are features that exist specifically to reduce development iteration cycle latency without compiling for the wrong target.
Please refer to https://ziglang.org/download/0.15.1/release-notes.html#Incre...
This has nothing to do with agentic engineering. This is just normal software development. Everybody wants faster compilation speed
Comment · 8 months ago
I propose let's break up a bunch of these monopolies to give you and your colleagues more options, more competition for your resume.