AOE9
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I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the British public don't think he is either. Which is why I am asking how he is one.
> Ok, so I've grabbed a random definition of fascism[0] (first thing that came up googling).
Yeah that is the same definition I was using.
> now, let's think about tommy robinson and the EDL. > * exalts nation and often race above the individual - check.
Sure I agree.
> * wants a centralised autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader - check.
Where did this come from? I don't think that article said anything about this.
> * by forcible suppression of opposition - I mean... it's the EDL, big check.
I don't know much about the EDL & what they have done so I couldn't comment on this.
How is what I said racist? I was agreeing with you but saying London being #2 and pointing to #1 is not really proving your point. You should point to #3 to make your point.
> I pointed out that London is lower than a comparable major US city.
Again, you can not compare across countries you don't know the difference in how the data is recorded. For example is a murder not recorded in the USA for every suspious death where as the UK it is for every murder conviction?
> It's also lower than several areas in the UK.
It is #2 on that 23/24 list.
> Come and visit - don't believe the lies being spread.
I lived on London's outskirts for multiple years and have to visit multiple times a year. I wouldn't describe it as great, I dread going everytime.
Also West Midlands is that not Biringham etc? Is that not one of the other mostly non-white places in the UK? You could have pointed to number 3 on the list Cleveland being mostly white(95%+ I think) and not being much lower than London.
I still have major reservations around dropping IaC and just working on a simulation of what is deployed, I don't see how this can work for more complex deployments such as multiple region/AZ deployments, blue/green deployments, cell based deployments etc etc. Seems like dropping IaC would only work for very simple environments.
> how does that translate to wanting a dictatorial leader, autocracy, forcible suppression etc like Russia?
> > * wants a centralised autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader - check. > Where did this come from? I don't think that article said anything about this.
You responded to this with a wikipedia article, which said he denounced fascism/neo-nazis & banned people from events.
> So has he ever expressed anti-democratic ideas? Such as wanting a dictatorial leader, autocracy etc that kind of is a key component of fascism.
I don't see how my follow up question was unreasonable given the wikipedia or ADL article you linked never said he expressed anti-democratic ideas.
However, projectazorian has convinced me that while they may not have expressed fascist views directly, with their deep connections to neo-nazis/fascists they could be hiding it to be electable.