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> And that is wrong. It's even better than the "cash cow" it used to be, I provided some values of what Windows brings in over the years, and it has grown and grown. You ignored that.

No and I've never ignored it. As the revenue percentage decreases because it is growing slow. It will become less important.

Relatively it isn't as much of a cash cow, which I explained ad-nauseam to you.

> You seriously do not.

It is correct enough for all intents and purposes. You are quibbling over semantics. It is totally unnecessary and pedantic.

> You are reported.

I don't care. If you make arrogant little statements like that, expect that response.

> This isn't "semantic wankery".

Yeah it is. I never said it wasn't a cash cow. I said "it wasn't the cash cow it once was". I obviously meant relatively compared to other parts of Microsoft's business.

Considering you keep omitting that from what I said, I can only assume you are continuing to engage in bad faith.

> Next time you want to use a colloquialism, make sure you look it up first.

I understand what it means fine. I did use it correctly.

> Microsoft Windows still dominates the OS market.

On on laptops and desktops. The vast majority of people at home are using phones and tablets (outside of work usage). In that space Android dominates, then iOS and have done so for about a decade now.

> Feel free to quit this conversation at any time.

You are a clown.

I've listened to a lot of Malcolm X. He was a better speaker IMO, his rhetoric was better. I believe he had a more accurate understanding of the reality of how power really works. It has nothing to do with wanting to justifying violence, Malcolm X made a number of matter of fact observations.

> people paying for things at stores is not because everyone has actually agreed on the price.

Yes it is. If a normal commodity item such as bottle of milk was outrageous overpriced in a particular store. I would just go to another store.

As for whether I would pay for something without the threat of violence. I do so everyday. I've walked out of stores by mistake with an item I haven't paid for and gone back into the store and paid for it. I don't like my things being stolen, and thus I don't steal other people's things.

I pay for my eggs from a farm and it is a honour system.

> Yeah, you're still just wrong.

No. All you are doing is engaging in semantic wankery.

> So your assumption that Windows is somehow "not the cash cow it once was" is false. It's bringing in more money than it ever did before.

What don't you understand about being a smaller percentage of their business as a whole?

My entire point that it has gone from the basically a 30% (~2010) of the revenue to less than 10%. Therefore they are simply not going to care about it as much, because their strategy is basically to push as much as possible into the cloud.

Saying they make more money with that now, when the growth compared to other parts of the business is low is missing the point.

> Twitter had a lot of engineers on its payroll to look for the next big thing.

What was the "next big thing" before acquisition? There seems to be more features added after the acquisition than before it.

My original comment:

> The fact is that Windows isn't the cash cow it used to be for Microsoft

My second to you:

> Windows isn't a cash cow it once was

You really need to learn how to read or all you are doing is arguing about semantics.

> That isn't how you compare things.

I compared once segment of the business to others. Several other websites had various estimates on what percentage of the business Windows took up. Most of them said 6-10%, so I took 10%. Other websites group server and cloud, A rough guesstimate for a comment on a discussion thread is good enough. I was't aware I would need to go through the 10Q filings to satisfy you.

The point being communicated (even with your ridiculous nitpicks about the stats) is that Windows isn't a cash cow it once was. Microsoft Strategy is not Windows focused like it was under Ballmer.

I am English. It took me all of like 30 seconds to look up the relevant law using Google. Most of Anglosphere has a definition of Burglary that is essentially the same and I suspect it is the same in Europe.

They don't need it if everything is in the cloud running oh their servers. They won't care if you are running Windows, Linux, Chrome, A tablet with a keyboard and mouse hooked up.

The vast majority of people that don't work in IT don't ever use a laptop or a desktop computer unless it is for work. They are using a phone and/or tablet.

Yes. Similarly, If I leave my car unlocked with the keys in the ignition, and someone takes it is still a crime. It might be unwise to do that (depending on where you are), but nonetheless it is still crime.

> It's still the foundational underpinning of everything Microsoft does. It's just that the other revenues dwarf it.

If a corporate customer is running their stuff in the cloud they don't care if people are using Chromebooks/MacBooks/Linux to develop the software with. They just care that you are using Azure. Ultimately they want you to do everything through a web browser (just like google), even some dev environments are going that way.

Outside of corporations when interacting with non-tech people, none of them use a laptop. It is phone or tablet. A laptop running Windows is a work machine. I wonder what the stats are for home usage of Windows vs other things and honestly I don't believe a lot people are using a laptop/desktop running Windows.

> It's not like they could not serve ads and shove CoPilot in your face, without making the UI so so sloppy and slow.

I have a stripped down Windows 11 on my second disk (I will be removing it at some point). The OS is reasonably fast. I've removed most of the telemetry and other rubbish like the web search on desktop. So I can only assume it is that. I don't really care though anymore. I am running Debian on pretty much everything except for the work machine which I don't own.