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Why do you think so? To me it seems like they actually fit the textbook definition very well. They're firms that require constant injection of massive amounts of new capital to stay solvent, with no clear path towards profitability. The only way anyone gets their money back is if more investors buy in. It would be easy to prove me wrong, all they have to do is start turning a profit. But they can't.

[edit] And worse, they've dragged major established players in the industry with them--Microsoft, Google, etc. So now an uncomfortably large fraction of the world's economy is resting on.. nothing. To be fair, I don't blame OpenAI or Anthropic for the bad behavior of the other tech giants. It's the entire tech sector that has lost their minds collectively. At some point making things that actually work lost out to fantastic delusions.

I don't understand, could you please explain?

I'll concede that point, but it's still not enough to justify buying a used GPU datacenter on the cheap. To do so you need to believe that by powering up and running all those GPUs you will be able to turn a profit before you go insolvent. Or failing that, you need to be able to con enough investors into believing it, and then somehow make it happen before they stop believing. So far the AI industry has been very good at conning investors, and cataclysmically bad at generating profits.

So if you're in the market for a used GPU datacenter even at fire sale prices you better have a solid plan to profitability. So far, it doesn't actually seem like there's anything you can do with those GPUs that will get there in any known or even guessable timeframe. That makes it a really fucking dumb idea lol.

> OpenAI going bust would not cause those data centres to cease to exist, they’d still be there just owned for cheap by someone else that can run them at cost.

Someone would have to see value in that. Right now the value prop of AI is that maybe someday it'll get better and we'll be able to build useful, profitable consumer products on it. That's not really a great investment thesis, unless you're drunk on the hype.

Now that the market is sobering up a bit, will operating a "cheap" GPU datacenter at cost be worth anything? Not "future value", but present value. Can you turn a healthy profit running a GPU datacenter today? I doubt it.

They successfully turned the entire tech sector into a giant pyramid scheme. That's one hell of an accomplishment. I hope history forever remembers the names of everyone who aided and abetted them.

Guess they'll just have to tighten the belt and follow through on their promise to revolutionize work, capitalism, government, and everything by building AGI. Lol. Lmao.

Yes, that's what I meant. A lot of folks just build stuff in a Microsoft hosted actions runner which can talk to the entire Internet and pull deps straight from PyPI or whatever. Then those artifacts show up on the Releases page and go into production. Whee.

The whole actions/CI thing is really nice but there's no good reason the computationally heavy stuff should be running on Github's (Microsoft's) servers. They can run the control plane cheaply and make the user run an agent somewhere to act as the build box runner thing. The user experience would be identical, but they'd outsource the vast majority of the compute costs to the user[1]. It's shocking they didn't do something like that model in the first place, tbh. Moviepass for CI.

[1] It can also have supply chain security and reliability benefits too. You're not actually building deployment artifacts in your actions runners, right? Right? RIGHT?

Delicious, buttery fish. Makes excellent sashimi too.

Is there another way to do it? I suppose you could sort of fillet them all off in the initial cutting operation but you'd lose a large chunk of meat and it might not actually get them all. Deboning after the boil seems like a Pareto optimal time/ease/waste trade.

Only one company I've worked at maintained their own distro packages for deploying services. That was 13+ years ago. Every company since then had a containerized deployment strategy, some better than others. My most recent employer went through a massive effort to implement "golden base images" and tooling to ensure when the base image is updated all the dependents are rebuilt and redeployed. Most don't do that.

The harassment lawsuit that would follow, or at least a few rounds with my attorney.

lmfao what... If the police woke me up to fix anything the only thing they'd get out of me is "lawyer". And I wouldn't put a single iota of effort into fixing that thing until the entire matter with the police was resolved. If you want someone's attention on something, especially something nuanced and intricate like a software bug, that's absolutely not how you get it.

There's also the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (in the US).