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I actually thought about “Is Programming ART?” But then I realized: doesn't pretty much every profession eventually start thinking of itself as an art form?

Maybe we humans just have this tendency to turn a profession into an art once it becomes complicated enough to distinguish the really good practitioners from those who merely do it as a job.

Or maybe, to take it a step further, we eventually turn everything we do into an art form.

So I'd say yes, programming is an art form, just like most things humans do. Most people just don't think about it that way.

EDIT: To clarify, I've never really liked comparing programming to painting or similar art forms, because they're fundamentally different. Cooking is a much better analogy for me.

Pushing out 10,000 frozen pizzas in a factory is cooking. So is making pizzas at your local pizzeria, or watching a world-class chef create a unique pizza in that moment, one that might never be made exactly the same way again.

We'd generally agree that cooking is a practical, functional activity, but that it can also be an art form. I think programming is much the same. It's just that most people never get the chance to see that side of it.

This is only when you build a big web app serving also others. You can just build a desktop app, a cli, a local webpage etc and use it to "Organize my gallery" or whatever. So now you kinda have that app, even when you cancel your AI subscription or they go bust, things simply still just work so you can focus on important stuff.

Yeah exactly how I came naturally to use it.

Coding became now way faster especially when I knew exactly what I wanted so I tasked it with helping me build CLI tools, automations, small apps, which now surely are free to use and tailored for my needs. Asking it always the same thing, and spending tokens for that (and with that power) seemed just not right.

Are they, if I can say, the Swedish version of AfD (of Germany)?

Free Speech != I have to agree with you.

Actually "projects" are never political. But the people behind those projects we love and support, can care ffor lots more of political, social, or whatever form of issues or topics.

So they can be political in more things and actually when they make an honest public statement we should be happy since we know clearly what's their standing on important issues of today. I think that should be important to all of us.

Actually, at this day and age, I think not just Tor but all projects and public companies should choose sides and be vocal about it.

When big players don't choose sides, it doesn't mean they actually dont support a side, it means we don't know or they wanna hide it.

So my point is we might not agree with Tor at this, but I know, I guess to a reasonable degree, now what Tor stands for, and that is rare today.

Also lets not forget that, at least for many people, Tor is a heavy mission driven project. So what it chooses matters to people that worry about big issues of our generation.

Maybe but not when it means that they are able to take a citizenship from someone. Its not about fixing mistakes, thats not so bad, but the government being able to take citizenship of individuals for whatever reason is entirely wrong and will definitely be misused.

I think actually the whole idea behind obtaining a citizenship is so it cant be taken away from you since its essential to modern life.

Surely, if the individual breaks rules or laws, they should be held accountable legally as any other citizen born with the same citizenship. Taking it away from you shouldn't be an option.

The worst part is that it used to be like that, and now there's another group: the average person who buys a product without even realizing it's connected to their network.

So, yeahh, the 1 TB of data is bad, but that seems more like a bug. The bigger issue is that people are buying "IoT" products without even realizing it. They're looking for a simple, decent coffee maker, and what they get is a coffee maker bundled with an even shittier app that can be insecure, become outdated, be full of bugs, turn into a paid service, or eventually stop working and prevent you from using a product you legally bought. And who knows what other issues it'll introduce along the way.

I fucking hate how apps and connectivity have become the default for practically everything you buy, even when there's absolutely no clear need for them. They usually offer very little additional convenience while introducing all the issues mentioned above. More things to break, more security and privacy risks, more dependencies on services you don't control, and potentially a perfectly functional product turned into e-waste because some company decided to stop supporting its shitty app.

To me, the trade-off is almost never worth it. If I was naive I would think for other people the trade-off is just OK for them but actually they're not aware they're doing this trade-off at all.

Yeah at my place our DevOps team had been asking for resources on our CI/CD pipeline for a long time but wasn't prioritized. After awhile, after introducing something like teams wide "Retros', we noticed they didnt want the resources, we wanted them!

So we started being more vocal and management understood its for everyone and their wish got approved recently and its been a big change.

Oh exactly the same here.

Small company in Germany, QA team with about 5 people. But not all the devs are bad, just some are too comfortable with AI and getting lazy.

It seems it was one of those cases where the "InfoSec" Department kept doing all these trainings how we don't do that and why but some manager or head decided to sent that email and surely cant face repercussions due to influence.

In the end it fucks me because when I tell my dad "Oh they never ask for you password, so don't say it to nobody no matter what."

He "But when they asked us last year?!"

I'm actually curios to know how do you people visit the link securely? I guess a VM but could in theory something be resilient enough to misuse the Shared Clipboard or something to access your host machine?

Also what is your go to OS?

Hm, when I think of it an old Raspberry Pi could be my go to for this, but always physically.

Yeah at least when you interview locally in your areas, you get to meet them before you get a random test assignment.

But also online, once or twice I received these Leetcode style sites to register and do a few tests before we meet, which was weird for me and I just ignored it.

One of them later asked "Why I didn't have time to do it yet" and I told them I first meet people and check the fit before I do tests, like who the hell does that differently?

Hope it hasn't become a way more common thing.