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Here's the original essay -- https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html
This is a good little overview entitled "Worse is Better Considered Harmful" -- https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs201/projects/2010-... -- in which the authors argue for "Growable Is Better".
In summary - it's about ease of implementation trumping all else. C and Unix are memorably labelled "the ultimate computer viruses".
I was more a happy Guix user and computing beginner, rather than an expert, I didn't do anything overly fancy. I was starting to dabble with more advanced topics, but had to leave that system unfortunately for unrelated reasons. Looking forward to a glorious return though, I must say, as soon as I can manage it.
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I'm reminded of definitively the most extreme writing on programming I've ever read, here https://llthw.common-lisp.dev/introduction.html, including but in no way limited to claims such as:
> The mind is capable of unconsciously understanding the structure of the computer through the Lisp language, and as such, is able to interface with the computer as if it was an extension to its own nervous system. This is Lisp Consciousness, where programmer and computer are one and the same; they drink of each other, and drink deep; and at least as long as the Lisp Hacker is there in the flow, riding the current of pure creativity and genius with their trusty companions Emacs and SLIME, neither programmer nor computer know where one ends and the other begins. In a manner of speaking, Lispers already know machine intelligence---and it is beautiful.
Has any other language produced such thoughts in the minds of human beings? Maybe yes, but I don't know of one. Maybe Forth, or Haskell, or Prolog, but I haven't found similar writing. Please do share.
Can you clarify what exactly you mean then when you say that "AI" (presumably you mean LLMs) has agency, and that this sets it apart from all other technologies? If this agency as you define it makes it different from all other technologies, presumably it must mean something pretty serious.
I'll be excited if that changes, but there is absolutely no sign of it changing. I mean, explicitly, the possibility of thinking machines is where it was before this whole thing started - maybe slightly higher, but moreso because a lot of money is being pumped into research.
LLMs might still replace some software workers, or lead to some reorganising of tech roles, but for a whole host of reasons, none of which are related to machine sentience.
As one example - software quality matters less and less the as users get locked in. If some juniors get replaced by LLMs and code quality plummets causing major headaches and higher workloads for senior devs, as long as sales don't dip, managers will be skipping around happily.
"How to get a Mediocre Job and live an Unremarkable Life"
Where the content of the article or video was, simply:
"Be born a human. You'll have a 99.99% chance of succeeding!"
It'd be pretty grim, it'd last about 15s to read or view, so no-one makes that video. Instead, they make videos about becoming pilots at 21, or owning your own house at 23, etc.
It's hard to accept these percentages as real, because it's about the opposite of what is presented on the content farm platforms, and that's partly as I said the fact that the story is too grim, but also the fact that the "unremarkable" people are not the ones producing "content".
"If you don't have rich parents, an alternative is to get a high-paying job".
I like Graham's writing, and defend it elsewhere in this thread, but that has such an obsequious and somehow macho smack to it, wow. One imagines Hercules chiseling his abs. If that's what his writing does for you, fair enough, but it sure is intense.
Have you read ANSI Common Lisp? Or even the introduction to it?
I have criticisms of Mr. Graham, but the man can write, and consistently. Some of the essays can be a tad too terse for me at times, but when he gets it right, his stuff can be exquisite.
Another example that comes immediately crashing to mind is Donald Knuth - have you read any of his tech writing? It's glorious.
Anyone who wants to claim there's a hard line between writing worthy of "literary merit" and tech writing is going to have their work cut out for them with those two already.
If so, the danger there would be... Companies plodding along similarly? Everyone knows CEOs are the least capable people in business, which is why they have the most underlings to do the actual work. Having an LLM there to decide for the CEO might mean the CEO causes less damage by ensuring consistent mediocrity at all times, in a smooth fashion, rather than mostly mediocre but with unpredictable fluctuations either way.
All hail our LLM CEOs, ensuring mediocrity.
Or you might mean that an LLM could have illicitly gained control of a corporation, pulling the strings without anyone's knowledge, acting on its own accord. If you find the idea of inscrutable yes-men with an endless capacity to spout drivel running the world unpalatable, I've good news and bad news for you.
But I must push back, there really seem to have been no incidences where something like emergent behaviour has been observed. They're able to generate text fluently, but are dumb and unaware at the same time, from day one. If someone really thinks they've solid evidence of anything other than this, please show us.
This is coming from someone who has watched commentary on quite a sizeable number of stockfish TCEC chess games over the last five years, marvelling in the wonders of thie chess-super-intelligence. I am not against appreciating amazing intelligences, in fact I'm all for it. But here, while the tool is narrowly useful, I think there's zero intelligence, and nothing of that kind has "emerged".
It's one of many unfortunate anthropomorphic buzz words which conveniently wins hearts and minds (of investors) over to this notion that we're tickling the gods, rather than the more mundane fact that we're training tools for synthesising and summarising very, very large data sets.
You had me at "probablistic regurgitation of tropes", and then you went for the whole "grainy facsimile" bit. Sheesh.
I mean, I'm guessing that's true. It'd make a lot of sense if they vehemently disliked that. It's hard to make sense of it all otherwise, really.