I don’t think this article is fair and borders on click bait, with a salacious headline and handpicked responses.
1. All all the facts are NOT in, yet judgment has been reached and mudslingers are throwing.
2. By the NTSB preliminary report, the entire time from the first pilot warning (1100:18) to midair (1100:52) was 34 seconds. Barely half a minute for life and death decisions to be made. All of which fell on ATC and the F-16 pilot with the civilian not in radio contact.
3. ATC made the traffic call. 8 seconds later ATC gives the ‘turn south’ call. The F-16 pilot asks ‘confirm 2 miles’. 8 seconds later ATC says ‘if traffic not in sight, turn immediately 180.’ The F-16 pilot complies and begins his turn south. 18 seconds later they collide.
4. From 2 miles to collisions in 34 seconds coincides with just under 4 miles a minute closure or 240kts. Cesna at 60 and F-16 at 180 seems reasonable.
Could the F-16 driver have overbanked and started his turn quicker by a few seconds? Maybe, but there was only 16 seconds and the pilot collided in a turn, so if he’d delayed a few more seconds the collision would have been a miss.
Also, how responsible is a civilian pilot for climbing through an instrument approach near a military airfield without radio contact?
It’s a tragedy. Military aviation could probably ditch Tacan approaches, but they are good training. Perhaps any that are close to civilian fields need to be given the axe.
Yet to blame this only on the military pilot and military pilots in general is a complete disgrace. An accident is like swiss cheese, with multiple holes. Errors with people, processes, and things all help cause it.
If only one thing would have changed (if the turn started earlier or later, if ATC picked up the radar hit earlier, if the F-16 pilot got a visual quicker, if the F-16 had a radar lock, if the Cesna was in radio contact, if the Cesna stayed below and didn’t climb through an instrument approach) the crash wouldn’t have happened.
Aviation is dangerous, especially if you aren’t in a bus. Even a bus driver is mildly dangerous.[1] General Aviation and Fighter Aviation are especially dangerous. While I’m all for lessons learned, this salacious, click-bait, profiteering-off-a-tragedy, poised-as-a-question trash doesn’t help.
[1] http://qz.com/410585/garbage-collectors-are-more-likely-to-d...
1. All all the facts are NOT in, yet judgment has been reached and mudslingers are throwing.
2. By the NTSB preliminary report, the entire time from the first pilot warning (1100:18) to midair (1100:52) was 34 seconds. Barely half a minute for life and death decisions to be made. All of which fell on ATC and the F-16 pilot with the civilian not in radio contact.
3. ATC made the traffic call. 8 seconds later ATC gives the ‘turn south’ call. The F-16 pilot asks ‘confirm 2 miles’. 8 seconds later ATC says ‘if traffic not in sight, turn immediately 180.’ The F-16 pilot complies and begins his turn south. 18 seconds later they collide.
4. From 2 miles to collisions in 34 seconds coincides with just under 4 miles a minute closure or 240kts. Cesna at 60 and F-16 at 180 seems reasonable.
Could the F-16 driver have overbanked and started his turn quicker by a few seconds? Maybe, but there was only 16 seconds and the pilot collided in a turn, so if he’d delayed a few more seconds the collision would have been a miss.
Also, how responsible is a civilian pilot for climbing through an instrument approach near a military airfield without radio contact?
It’s a tragedy. Military aviation could probably ditch Tacan approaches, but they are good training. Perhaps any that are close to civilian fields need to be given the axe.
Yet to blame this only on the military pilot and military pilots in general is a complete disgrace. An accident is like swiss cheese, with multiple holes. Errors with people, processes, and things all help cause it.
If only one thing would have changed (if the turn started earlier or later, if ATC picked up the radar hit earlier, if the F-16 pilot got a visual quicker, if the F-16 had a radar lock, if the Cesna was in radio contact, if the Cesna stayed below and didn’t climb through an instrument approach) the crash wouldn’t have happened.
Aviation is dangerous, especially if you aren’t in a bus. Even a bus driver is mildly dangerous.[1] General Aviation and Fighter Aviation are especially dangerous. While I’m all for lessons learned, this salacious, click-bait, profiteering-off-a-tragedy, poised-as-a-question trash doesn’t help.
[1] http://qz.com/410585/garbage-collectors-are-more-likely-to-d...