C to both of your questions.
The JVM compiler compiles for the JVM, which is written in C. So, how again can something written in C perform faster than...something written in C?
I'm not claiming that line by line transcription, C will always perform each particular operation faster than Java. But the fact that you could write the entire JVM in C means that you could recreate the exact platform and replicate the results. Is that sane? No, not really.
Comparing languages is typically silly, as it mostly boils down to implementation. If you -really- intend to compare speeds of languages, it would necessitate writing the best possible code in both languages, which may or may not even resemble each other. Under those circumstances, Java is not capable of beating C. Ever.
I don't understand why this is an argument anymore, it doesn't really even make much sense...unless my definition of 'language speed' is unusual.
The JVM compiler compiles for the JVM, which is written in C. So, how again can something written in C perform faster than...something written in C?
I'm not claiming that line by line transcription, C will always perform each particular operation faster than Java. But the fact that you could write the entire JVM in C means that you could recreate the exact platform and replicate the results. Is that sane? No, not really.
Comparing languages is typically silly, as it mostly boils down to implementation. If you -really- intend to compare speeds of languages, it would necessitate writing the best possible code in both languages, which may or may not even resemble each other. Under those circumstances, Java is not capable of beating C. Ever.
I don't understand why this is an argument anymore, it doesn't really even make much sense...unless my definition of 'language speed' is unusual.