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Comment by Kevin_Flynn

The antenna is physical, as is the radio, as is the energy transmitted from radio to antenna.

The information aka "meaningful patterns" exist only in your head, as an artifact of baseline biology, behaviorial modification, and long term memories.

Consciousness is physical.

As for a less violent procedure, you could give the author some anesthetic and ask him to repeat the claim.

In your radio - antenna analogy, this would be what, similar to disconnecting the antenna from the amplifier circuit, a physical alteration, which alters demonstrated consciousness.

The debate seems to stem from, is consciousness the sensory input aka information itself, or is consciousness the ability to process, respond, and adapt to information ?

I argue the later because the information itself is meaningless without a human brain to ascribe meaning.

Furthermore, the meaning of the information is different, depending on the brain and nervous system processing it.

Humans swat flies. Lizards and frogs eat them.

Same events. Same information. Different meanings, different responses, different consciousness.

consciousness, a psychological condition defined by the English philosopher John Locke as “the perception of what passes in a man’s own mind.”

Lobotomies, however they be performed, physical or chemical, alter "the perception of what passes in a mans own mind" as reported and demonstrated by the recipients, while sharing the exact same root biology and environment as the executioners of said procedure.

Are we not judging the quality of others consciousness on an individual level, and ascribing meaning to the information we received while observing the others behavior ?

Ones "class" is the metric we ascribe to our perception of anothers consciousness.

parent Kevin_Flynn 12 days ago

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