> But you must see that it is a genuine conundrum...
I, frankly, don't. A lot of these conversations stop because of statements like this. You're assuming a set of priors that make your argument make a ton of sense and assuming other people agree with them as well. Take away that as your prior assumption and other viewpoints make a lot more sense.
There's a term for the phenomenon that I don't recall but there's a trap people fall into where they see themselves as the only one who can see through the lies and everyone else is falling for it. I think that happens a lot when people talk about "bad ideas".
I don't think it's the ideas existing that is the problem. I think a focus on the ideas is a distraction from the question of what are the conditions that make these ideas attractive to people?
As an example, I dislike Trump immensely. However it's not at all surprising to me that people voted for him for a lot of reasons but I think the best example was in what is probably the best political slogan/ad I've seen in my life, "He's for you, she's for they/them."
I don't think the problem was Trump, I think the problem was the choice being Trump's ideas and the ideas he was up against being.
I, frankly, don't. A lot of these conversations stop because of statements like this. You're assuming a set of priors that make your argument make a ton of sense and assuming other people agree with them as well. Take away that as your prior assumption and other viewpoints make a lot more sense.
There's a term for the phenomenon that I don't recall but there's a trap people fall into where they see themselves as the only one who can see through the lies and everyone else is falling for it. I think that happens a lot when people talk about "bad ideas".
I don't think it's the ideas existing that is the problem. I think a focus on the ideas is a distraction from the question of what are the conditions that make these ideas attractive to people?
As an example, I dislike Trump immensely. However it's not at all surprising to me that people voted for him for a lot of reasons but I think the best example was in what is probably the best political slogan/ad I've seen in my life, "He's for you, she's for they/them."
I don't think the problem was Trump, I think the problem was the choice being Trump's ideas and the ideas he was up against being.