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Comment by torben-friis

>You can disagree with the tradeoff, but if you don't acknowledge it you're just doing propaganda.

There is a third position beside "I agree/disagree with the tradeoff", which is "I don't consider the tradeoff as stated truthful and refuse to frame the conversation that way".

Every closing of rights comes with a legitimate-sounding reason. Protect the children, etc. Most activist have been through this process enough times to see the play coming a mile away.

It is also surprising to see, on a place called hacker news, people defending closed systems and removal of agency from end users by giant corporations.

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