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Comment by pseudosavant

Not trying to throw shade, but I think the number of devs wishing that the web ended up with XHTML + JVM (now owned by Oracle...) may just be you.

Never mind that when Microsoft licensed Java from Sun for IE3 and IE4, Sun sued Microsoft. Sun wanted to be the only distributor of Java, just like Adobe was with Flash. So, browsers wouldn't have actually included a Java runtime out of the box without licensing/paying Sun for it. I'm sure that dependency would have only gotten even better under Oracle.

Those of us old enough to remember the web with plugins, don't miss plugins.

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