> He gets plenty of shit for it and lost popularity with anyone that cares about the matter.
Maybe among well-informed people who closely follow immigration policy, but not necessarily among the broader Conservative base.
This illustrates my point: much of the political debate about immigration is driven by perceptions rather than actual policy outcomes. Johnson talked about restricting immigration, which was popular with his base, but many voters had little understanding of what his government was actually doing. Literally just anti-immigration vibes.
And the political scandals that ultimately brought him down were largely unrelated to immigration. And he would have been the best for the Tories to have a chance in the election.
> By which metrics that they should all care about has it been doing well for people of the existing nations in europe?
Nice attempt at shifting the goalposts while not so subtly implying that immigration is responsible for all these other issues.
That wasn't the argument. The argument was about whether anti-immigration sentiment and political support for anti-immigration politicians actually correlate with immigration levels and policy outcomes.
> I listed some examples of ones that aren't so great in an earlier comment in this comment tree.
You mean the racist rants based on completely made up stuff or serious misinterpretation of a few data-points while completely ignoring the much more important much more actual relevant issues?
Maybe among well-informed people who closely follow immigration policy, but not necessarily among the broader Conservative base.
This illustrates my point: much of the political debate about immigration is driven by perceptions rather than actual policy outcomes. Johnson talked about restricting immigration, which was popular with his base, but many voters had little understanding of what his government was actually doing. Literally just anti-immigration vibes.
And the political scandals that ultimately brought him down were largely unrelated to immigration. And he would have been the best for the Tories to have a chance in the election.
> By which metrics that they should all care about has it been doing well for people of the existing nations in europe?
Nice attempt at shifting the goalposts while not so subtly implying that immigration is responsible for all these other issues.
That wasn't the argument. The argument was about whether anti-immigration sentiment and political support for anti-immigration politicians actually correlate with immigration levels and policy outcomes.
> I listed some examples of ones that aren't so great in an earlier comment in this comment tree.
You mean the racist rants based on completely made up stuff or serious misinterpretation of a few data-points while completely ignoring the much more important much more actual relevant issues?