> When was the "looking the other way" happening?
Maybe you didn't.
Just point me to a few points in the past where you have been trying to get attention to how hamas have been attacking Israel in the past 20 years.
> There was never any intention whatsoever from the Israeli side to live in peace with its neighbors. I'm not sure it's incumbent upon the existing residents of an area to welcome someone who quite clearly intends to take all of your land.
Israel has traded land for peace every time they got a chance. Just ask Egypt.
You can also check with Syria who got offered the Golan heights back but refused because there was one clause: Syria would have to agree to a peace deal.
> A Jewish state in part of Palestine is not an end, but a beginning... We shall bring into the state all the Jews it is possible to bring... then we shall expand to the whole country... We will break through the borders imposed on us...
That was his opinion. Reading that quote and not checking what actually happened and also reading that quote without reading all the much worse quotes by Palestinian Arab (and other Arab) leaders is almost disingenious.
> Note that he refers to this being a state created in Palestine.
I don't dispute Palestine existing.
That would be as stupid as denying Scandinavia.
What I would like to point out though is that calling Palestinian Arabs "Palestinians" while calling Israelis "Jews" would be equally stupid to calling Swedes Scandinavians and Norwegians just Norwegians and argue that since Norway was once ruled by Sweden we don't really exist and must be expelled because "Scandinavia for Scandinavians".
If you look you will find that until 1948 Palestinians meant everyone living in Palestine and until the 60ies and 70ies Palestinian Arabs often refused being called Palestinians as they saw themselves as south Syrians, Jordanians or just Arabs.
Look closer at anything people present as proof of Palestine existing as a country and you find some very interesting details :
Palestinian stamps have Hebrew (~ Israeli) text. Same goes for Palestinian coins.
Palestinian passports has a field telling if it is a Druze, a Jew, a Muslim etc.
Palestinian Airlines? Owned and operated by Jews.
List goes on.
> Both sides are sufficiently horrible and indefensible to be simply horrible and indefensible.
One side celebrates murder and death, has death penalty, throws gays from rooftops, no womens rights.
The other is a modern democracy where everyone has the same rights (ok, Israeli Arabs ("Israeli Palestinians") and Ultra Orthodox Jews both have the same extra right to only serve in the IDF if they want.)
One side has systematically ethnically cleansed the other sides (no known Jews in Gaza, Christian population in Bethlehem down by 66%) while the other side has a large Arab minority well represented at every level of the legal system and in the parliament.
But sure, both sides are equally bad, right?
Maybe you didn't.
Just point me to a few points in the past where you have been trying to get attention to how hamas have been attacking Israel in the past 20 years.
> There was never any intention whatsoever from the Israeli side to live in peace with its neighbors. I'm not sure it's incumbent upon the existing residents of an area to welcome someone who quite clearly intends to take all of your land.
Israel has traded land for peace every time they got a chance. Just ask Egypt.
You can also check with Syria who got offered the Golan heights back but refused because there was one clause: Syria would have to agree to a peace deal.
> A Jewish state in part of Palestine is not an end, but a beginning... We shall bring into the state all the Jews it is possible to bring... then we shall expand to the whole country... We will break through the borders imposed on us...
That was his opinion. Reading that quote and not checking what actually happened and also reading that quote without reading all the much worse quotes by Palestinian Arab (and other Arab) leaders is almost disingenious.
> Note that he refers to this being a state created in Palestine.
I don't dispute Palestine existing.
That would be as stupid as denying Scandinavia.
What I would like to point out though is that calling Palestinian Arabs "Palestinians" while calling Israelis "Jews" would be equally stupid to calling Swedes Scandinavians and Norwegians just Norwegians and argue that since Norway was once ruled by Sweden we don't really exist and must be expelled because "Scandinavia for Scandinavians".
If you look you will find that until 1948 Palestinians meant everyone living in Palestine and until the 60ies and 70ies Palestinian Arabs often refused being called Palestinians as they saw themselves as south Syrians, Jordanians or just Arabs.
Look closer at anything people present as proof of Palestine existing as a country and you find some very interesting details :
Palestinian stamps have Hebrew (~ Israeli) text. Same goes for Palestinian coins.
Palestinian passports has a field telling if it is a Druze, a Jew, a Muslim etc.
Palestinian Airlines? Owned and operated by Jews.
List goes on.
> Both sides are sufficiently horrible and indefensible to be simply horrible and indefensible.
One side celebrates murder and death, has death penalty, throws gays from rooftops, no womens rights.
The other is a modern democracy where everyone has the same rights (ok, Israeli Arabs ("Israeli Palestinians") and Ultra Orthodox Jews both have the same extra right to only serve in the IDF if they want.)
One side has systematically ethnically cleansed the other sides (no known Jews in Gaza, Christian population in Bethlehem down by 66%) while the other side has a large Arab minority well represented at every level of the legal system and in the parliament.
But sure, both sides are equally bad, right?