Perhaps it stems from the the mind projection fallacy[1] (your comment is an example of this :) ) where in these people are so enamored by the rhetoric that they fail to consider the underlying game theory involved which needs second or even third order thinking. This needs some self awareness.
I would say much of the futility of debate and discussion originates from [1].
I would say much of the futility of debate and discussion originates from [1].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_projection_fallacy