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> Yet now we have, to my knowledge, no indicator of things getting better, but all indicators going way worse than we thought.

Several forms of pollution are now much better than they were decades ago. Chlorofluorocarbons, lead in gasoline, rivers and lakes around the world, catalytic converters, slash-and-burn agriculture etc. etc.

Electricity generation is also headed the right way.

The solution is usually better technology and political action, not abstinence. We still have fridges, just not with CFCs.

I'm not saying we'll fix climate change in time, by the way. That is uncertain. But if we do fix it, it won't be with degrowth.

> Yes it is. It's about mindful production of useful products and services. Which is very much the same as reducing economic activity and energy consumption.

Why do you think that wanting less cheap temu junk means overall economic activity will decrease? Why can't that economic activity be redirected to a sustainable future with abundance instead? I still want to eat food grown elsewhere in the world, just not sold in plastic packaging and transported with fossil fuels.

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