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> However the cold reality for both is that there is zero moat to a model anymore.

The moat right now is a) the hardware, b) the electricity, c) the intelligence, and d) scalability.

On hardware, it's very expensive to purchase anything which can provide a fraction of the performance of a subscription. Traditional accounting depreciation would imply that purchasing local hardware is a terrible financial decision.

On electricity, this is a surprising cost center depending on location. A system with just one 5090 can easily pull 1kW, and to achieve usable performance for a workplace is going to require dozens of machines. This can represent an extra $10-20k in electricity in cheap places. In California or Europe this could be $30-60k per year.

As for intelligence, the frontier models from OpenAI and Anthropic are still superior, and they have at least a 3-6 month head start. Distilled models are closing the gap on some metrics, but they still can't compete. That's why they cost so much less.

The last major moat is the ability for subscriptions to scale with need. This means easily adding and removing licenses. This is far easier than purchasing extremely expensive hardware (and managing it), and selling it if/when internal demand changes. It's the same reason companies use contractors. The ramp up/down costs are very high.

The only real moat that local LLMs have right now is privacy.

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