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Decent list but the ORM thing makes me suspicious.

He links here as some kind of damning proof that ORMs are default bad.

https://openai.com/index/scaling-postgresql/

“It’s a poor craftsmen who blames their tools.”

My ORM rule of thumb: ORM for CRUD not Reports

If you are joining 12 tables for operational data, you have a design flaw. That’s a reporting query pattern.

Often temp tables, CTEs etc are needed as an immediate fix with redesign as a long term fix. The query planner simply can’t optimize that in a reasonable time or it’s beyond there scope if what it can optimize. Also their solution to “joining in memory” is common.

My DB query rule of thumb: If the query is hard for you to understand, it’s hard for the planner to understand.

Default to small fast simple queries and pipeline them together.

parent pragmatic 2 months ago

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