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Comment by adregan

I apologize for taking the conversation off course as it wasn’t my intention, and I also thank you for providing examples of Dijkstra‘a writing. In asking for a recommendation, I was admitting a great blind spot, so you needn’t be breathless from the ignorance.

The only thing that I feel bears repeating is that I also compared Dijkstra to Ken Iverson—a mathematician who worked in the same time period and also taught in North America—who didn’t (as far as I have seen) muddy the waters of his writings/teachings with superfluous insults.

Note that Roger Hui here foregrounds the fact that

> Ken Iverson invented his notation as a means of communications among people

(Emphasis mine) and I think that it is important that this fact of APL is conflated against one’s desire to prove a program. A fact which Hui says has little to do with the correctness of the result.

One aspect of the original which I believe you are eliding over, but which I focused on and tacitly referenced (wouldn’t be an APL discussion without a little tacit programming reference), is that in conveying one’s ideas or proofs, one can distract from their point by introducing unrelated jabs or insults. I believe this fact is present in Roger Hui’s writing.

parent adregan 6 months ago

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