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Comment by raverbashing

I just love people who go on their soapbox to complain about a newer alternative when the status quo is worse

"nooo but proton mail complies to court orders!!111" wow shocking I know right? Do you think the other providers don't?

These are usually the same people who forget rubber-hose decrypting works

"But they use LiveKitCloud" yes - however we don't know half the story

Can Proton BYOK over their infra?

LiveKit's website TOS with a generic user - not ProtonMail. We don't know if there are any agreements there

> "all disputes are governed by the laws of the State of California"

Yes this is common with TOS.

> Their privacy policy explicitly acknowledges FTC jurisdiction and states the company will "access, preserve, and disclose your information"

This is the important part, not the other one above it

> showed active connections to 161.115.177.32 on port 443, a LiveKit-owned IP block (ARIN OrgId LIVEK) hosted on Oracle Cloud Infrastructure

Good test, but what/where was the originating IP? Was it using Brave's VPN (to the US) by any chance?

TBH I'm still more annoyed about the 90 day cookie - that was just rude

So again "why don't we have better privacy respecting options?" Maybe because if we try to do it some "privacy advicates" will throw a massive fit complaining about all its shorcomings (and still not pay for the service)

parent raverbashing 7 months ago

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