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Comment by ristos

No functions:

You can't do length + 1 as a single expression in any language though, in python for example len(ls) + 1 is two expressions, but I get what you mean, it is a little less terse. But those commas in prolog are super useful. And you can make your example bidirectional too:

``` :- use_module(library(clpfd)).

foo(List, X) :- length(List, Out), X #= Out + 1. ```

``` ?- foo(X, 3). X = [_, _] .

?- foo(X, 3), X = [a,b]. X = [a, b] . ```

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No standarized collection types:

I think that's a feature rather than a bug. The ability to just use infix and compound terms in a generic way without it being tied to a clause or operator is a huge feature. For example:

``` pets(dog-rex-poodle, dog-fluffy-bishon). ```

That defines the collection in a semantic or mathematical sort of way, then you can pass that into whatever data structure you want, whether it's a ordered map or a hashmap or whatever.

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No boolean values:

That's also a feature in prolog, same as having no null. It's the same sort of motivation for Haskell's Maybe and Either types or Rust's Option and Result types, same kind of usefulness.

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Cuts are confusing:

Conditionals don't need to use cuts, the modern prolog way of doing it is using the reif library:

``` :- use_module(library(reif)).

if_(Cond, Then, Else) ```

For example:

``` :- use_module(library(clpfd)). :- use_module(library(reif)).

sign(X, S) :- if_(X #> 0, S = pos, S = nonpos). ```

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Non-cuts are confusing:

This isn't doing what you're thinking:

``` \+ (A = B) ```

It's unifying A with B, `A = B` unifies. You want `dif(A, B)`.

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Straying outside of default queries is confusing:

It might be tempting to use bagof, but it's not monotonic. You should try to write as much prolog code as you can in a pure, monotonic way, so your code can take advantage of prolog's unique advantages, like monotonic debugging.

Check out the SWI prolog discourse group, there's a lot of good stuff in there and everyone's very supportive to newbies. And Markus Triska's website and youtube channel Power of Prolog is a super useful resource for all this stuff, a good place to go if you want to know what sets prolog apart. A lot of prolog's usefulness doesn't show up as an embedded language either, like minikanren isn't "pretty much prolog", it lacks a lot of stuff that prolog offers. Multiparadigm programming languages are also really popular now, but a lot of what sets programming languages apart isn't what they can do, it's what they can't do, what sort of paradigm or way of thinking they force you to adopt.

parent ristos 9 months ago

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