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Comment by LudwigNagasena

> The first is that reasoning probably requires language use. Even if you don’t think AI models can “really” reason - more on that later - even simulated reasoning has to be reasoning in human language.

That is an unreasonable assumption. In case of LLMs it seems wasteful to transform a point from latent space into a random token and lose information. In fact, I think in near future it will be the norm for MLLMs to "think" and "reason" without outputting a single "word".

> Whether AI reasoning is “real” reasoning or just a mirage can be an interesting question, but it is primarily a philosophical question. It depends on having a clear definition of what “real” reasoning is, exactly.

It is not a "philosophical" (by which the author probably meant "practically inconsequential") question. If the whole reasoning business is just rationalization of pre-computed answers or simply a means to do some computations because every token provides only a fixed amount of computation to update the model's state, then it doesn't make much sense to focus on improving the quality of chain-of-thought output from human POV.

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