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Comment by ryandrake

Patrick's "salary negotiation" piece has made the rounds here a number of times, and I always have the same reaction to it: It probably works, if you are already a software celebrity like Patrick, or some other highly sought after Captain of the software engineering industry. For us rank-and-file employee number 12887's, I just don't see it working--I've really never negotiated compensation significantly successfully in my 25+ year career. Here's how salary negotiation usually goes if you're not someone like John Carmack:

Them: We'd love to have you join the team! Here's your compensation letter, please get back to us within the next 2 weeks and we'll move forward.

You: Thank you, I believe my background and skills would suggest a compensation of $1.5X instead of $X. Is this possible with your hiring budget?

Them: The offer is for $X and we believe it is appropriate for your level.

You: Maybe my level should be higher then?

Them: Ha Ha

You: Looking at [website A, B, C] I see the average compensation for this role is $1.25X. Surely there is room to move this upward.

Them: We don't agree with that data. The offer is for $X. Shall we move forward?

You: What about equity or bonus, is there any flexibility with those numbers, or vacation time, or...?

Them: The offer is for $X. If you don't want the job, we can move on to one of our other 20 candidates who are in the pipeline for the role.

That's basically how salary negotiations went for almost the entirety of my career. If your results have been different, I'm kind of envious!

parent ryandrake 1 year ago

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