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Comment by joe_the_user

If Deepseek trained off OpenAI, then it wasn't trained from scratch for "pennies on the dollar"

If OpenAI trained on the intellectual property of others, maybe it wasn't the creativity breakthrough people claim?

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If you say ChatGPT was trained on "whatever data was available", and you say Deepseek was trained "whatever data was available", then they sound pretty equivalent.

All the rough consensus language output of humanity is now roughly on the Internet. The various LLMs have roughly distilled that and the results are naturally going to be tighter and tighter. It's not surprising that companies are going to get better and better at solving the same problem. The situation of DeepSeek isn't so much that promises future achievements but that it shows that OpenAI's string of announcements are incremental progress that aren't going to be reaching the AGI that Altman now often harps on.

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