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Some of it includes opposition against Israel's military campaigns in Palestine.

First off, this is in regard to an entirely different piece of legislation (the Terrorism Act of 2000). But more importantly, you are making a very significant distortion here.

No, people do not get arrested under this Act for holding up signs saying "IDF bad". Or otherwise for "opposing Israel's military campaigns" like you are describing.

Instead they get arrested for things like making statements which seem to indicate support for groups like Hamas, or for "Palestinian resistance" generally. Per the actual language of the act, "expressing a belief in support of a proscribed organistion."

You can be opposed to the Terrorism Act if you want to, and I would happen to agree with you - it is a horrible piece of legislation.

But the bigger point (for now) is -- the actual situation, in terms of what the Act prohibits, is very different from what you're describing.

I'm not saying you're lying. More likely you've ingested some news articles which either intentionally omitted (or never bothered to investigate) key aspects of these cases. It actually takes some digging to find the various people arrested under this Act (folks like Sarah Wilkinson and Richard Medhurst) were actually charged for.

But invariably (at least in the cases I've looked at) it turns out that, lo and behold, these people actually did make statements online that were clearly "in support of proscribed organisations". In the Medhurst's case, for example:

   ”Hamas are fighting the same war of national liberation against an occupying power. It is their moral and legal right.”
Which is rather different from simply indicating "opposition against Israel's military campaigns in Palestine".

Your response is chock full of weird distortions like this -- way too many to unpack and patiently analyze.

Point being: if this is how the truth gets mangled and distorted inside your own head; or you simply choose not to vet and fact-check your sources, at least once in a while -- then that's a situation which you've created for yourself. Not the doing of some totalitarian government, or any other kind of external bully.

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