> To be 1000% clear, the someone who is demanding this feature... is creators
I'm a creator, not on Patreon due to sanctions and I have a dayjob for now.
This would be an anti-feature for me because if it's implemented then there is pressure to pause payments when I don't create for whatever period of time I estimate is "too long" for some average patron. What a freaking can of worms. Turns creators into service providers.
> Patreon has not been a donation-specific platform since tiers were invented; and this kind of control over payments was always part of the platform for
Tiers is basically "choose how much change you can spare to support me". Most creators I support just have different text on them and no other difference.
> both creators using it as a sales platform and to creators using it as a donation platform
Using Patreon as sales platform is a cheaty workaround to save on fees. If you want to sell stuff you better look at Etsy or whatever fits your niche. You'll make more money too
> Are you seriously offended that some creators like having the ability to choose when they charge their patrons?
Nah. Only when you call it "patronage".
This is not providing a service in return for money. I create, my choice. You want to support me, your choice. Thanks but I don't have a responsibility to create. If you feel like I have then it's too much money for you, choose a smaller amount. Or don't pay at all. You don't have a responsibility to pay.
See also Github sponsorships.
> The idea behind Patreon is that creators should be able to make money doing things that they love in a way that is comfortable to them
By definition not. There is no generic "creator". People are different. "Comfortable" is different for different people. Patreon is focused on one specific model. They sorta try to do more ("pay per post") but that's feature creep and worse than using a dedicated platform. As patron I hate "pay per post" bc I have to do some math to even tell how much I'm paying you. Just obscurity for no good reason. As creator, see above.
I'm a creator, not on Patreon due to sanctions and I have a dayjob for now.
This would be an anti-feature for me because if it's implemented then there is pressure to pause payments when I don't create for whatever period of time I estimate is "too long" for some average patron. What a freaking can of worms. Turns creators into service providers.
> Patreon has not been a donation-specific platform since tiers were invented; and this kind of control over payments was always part of the platform for
Tiers is basically "choose how much change you can spare to support me". Most creators I support just have different text on them and no other difference.
> both creators using it as a sales platform and to creators using it as a donation platform
Using Patreon as sales platform is a cheaty workaround to save on fees. If you want to sell stuff you better look at Etsy or whatever fits your niche. You'll make more money too
> Are you seriously offended that some creators like having the ability to choose when they charge their patrons?
Nah. Only when you call it "patronage".
This is not providing a service in return for money. I create, my choice. You want to support me, your choice. Thanks but I don't have a responsibility to create. If you feel like I have then it's too much money for you, choose a smaller amount. Or don't pay at all. You don't have a responsibility to pay. See also Github sponsorships.
> The idea behind Patreon is that creators should be able to make money doing things that they love in a way that is comfortable to them
By definition not. There is no generic "creator". People are different. "Comfortable" is different for different people. Patreon is focused on one specific model. They sorta try to do more ("pay per post") but that's feature creep and worse than using a dedicated platform. As patron I hate "pay per post" bc I have to do some math to even tell how much I'm paying you. Just obscurity for no good reason. As creator, see above.