I love elixir. I use it for basically everything. And LiveBook has become my go-to place to start building toy software.
I just can't do liveview. I have a very hard time grokking it, and it has a lot of footguns. (ex: if you need to remember to perform auth checks both doing a `pipe_through` in a router and using the `on_mount` callback in a LiveView, see [0].)
In fact, the fact that the above sentence has zero meaning to a new-to-phoenix-and-liveview dev is proof enough to me that liveview should not be the default way of doing things.
It creates a very steep learning curve where, crucially none is required. elixir/phoenix are easy.
I would even say that the correct learning order for a new-to-elixir/phoenix dev should be:
- Phoenix with deadviews (MVC style).
- "Elixir in action" to learn the basics of OTP. This book is was both easy and utterly eye-opening to me and changed the way I code basically everything.
- Then, and only then, LiveView.
[0]: https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/security-model.html#liv...
I just can't do liveview. I have a very hard time grokking it, and it has a lot of footguns. (ex: if you need to remember to perform auth checks both doing a `pipe_through` in a router and using the `on_mount` callback in a LiveView, see [0].)
In fact, the fact that the above sentence has zero meaning to a new-to-phoenix-and-liveview dev is proof enough to me that liveview should not be the default way of doing things.
It creates a very steep learning curve where, crucially none is required. elixir/phoenix are easy.
I would even say that the correct learning order for a new-to-elixir/phoenix dev should be:
- Phoenix with deadviews (MVC style).
- "Elixir in action" to learn the basics of OTP. This book is was both easy and utterly eye-opening to me and changed the way I code basically everything.
- Then, and only then, LiveView.
[0]: https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/security-model.html#liv...