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I am long sought after a CUDA or HIP compiler that target SPIR-V or DXIL. So that we can compile all thoes neural network kernels to almost all compute devices.

The requirements are, 1. extend on C++17 this means template meta programming works so that cub or cutlass/cute works

2. AOT

3. and no shitshow!

The only thing that comes to close is circle[1].

- OpenCL is a no go, as it is purely C. And it is full of shitshow especially on Android devices. And the vendor drivers are the main source of shit, jit compile adds the other.

- Vulkan+GLSL is a no go. The degree of shitness is on par with OpenCL due to driver and jit compiler.

- slang[2] has the potential, but the meta programming part is not as strong as C++, existing libraries cannot be used.

The above conclusion is drawn from my work on OpenCL EP for onnxruntime. And it purely is a nightmare to work with thoes drivers and jit compilers. Hopefully Vcc can take compute shader more seriously.

[1]: https://www.circle-lang.org/

[2]: https://shader-slang.com/

[3]: https://github.com/microsoft/onnxruntime/tree/dev/opencl

parent cloudhan 2 years ago

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