You are both right, in that they were counterculture. However:
> comedians are supposed to be subversive
No, that's just your preference. Jay Leno and Norm MacDonald are not subversive at all; just funny. Most of the Smothers' comedy was family-friendly, but they did push a few buttons sometimes.
> I hope you talk in a more informed way about time you know
> comedians are supposed to be subversive
No, that's just your preference. Jay Leno and Norm MacDonald are not subversive at all; just funny. Most of the Smothers' comedy was family-friendly, but they did push a few buttons sometimes.
> I hope you talk in a more informed way about time you know
Totally unwarranted.