The "Dart plan" vs "TypeScript plan" comparison is shown at 1:33:50 in the talk:
> "Dart plan" - Competitive/successor 10x improvement
> New creation
> Limited interop, relies on wrapping/marshaling/thunking...
> Competes with standard (e.g., different modules, different generic constraints)
> Evolves independently of standards committee - far fewer design constraints
> Needs to bootstrap a new ecosystem
> "Typescript plan" - Cooperative/compatible 10x improvement
> Every .js file is a valid .ts file, add 1 class and see benefit
> Lowers to standard .js, 100% seamless compat with all JS libraries
> Cooperates with the standards committee (ECMAScript)
> Brings evolution proposals to standards committee
> Leverages entire existing ecosystem - works with all JS implementations & tools
Carbon is an example of the "Dart plan". Some quotes from Carbon's "Interoperability philosophy and goals" page (my emphasis):
> The C++ interoperability layer of Carbon allows a subset of C++ APIs to be accessed from Carbon code, and similarly a subset of Carbon APIs to be accessed from C++ code.
> The result is that it will often be reasonable to directly expose a C++ data structure to Carbon without converting it to a "native" or "idiomatic" Carbon data structure. Although interfaces may differ, a trivial adapter wrapper should be sufficient.
> There should be support for most idiomatic usage of advanced C++ features. A few examples are templates, overload sets, attributes and ADL.
> Non-goals
> Never require bridge code
> Support for C++ exceptions without bridge code
https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang/blob/trunk/do...
> "Dart plan" - Competitive/successor 10x improvement
> New creation
> Limited interop, relies on wrapping/marshaling/thunking...
> Competes with standard (e.g., different modules, different generic constraints)
> Evolves independently of standards committee - far fewer design constraints
> Needs to bootstrap a new ecosystem
> "Typescript plan" - Cooperative/compatible 10x improvement
> Every .js file is a valid .ts file, add 1 class and see benefit
> Lowers to standard .js, 100% seamless compat with all JS libraries
> Cooperates with the standards committee (ECMAScript)
> Brings evolution proposals to standards committee
> Leverages entire existing ecosystem - works with all JS implementations & tools
Carbon is an example of the "Dart plan". Some quotes from Carbon's "Interoperability philosophy and goals" page (my emphasis):
> The C++ interoperability layer of Carbon allows a subset of C++ APIs to be accessed from Carbon code, and similarly a subset of Carbon APIs to be accessed from C++ code.
> The result is that it will often be reasonable to directly expose a C++ data structure to Carbon without converting it to a "native" or "idiomatic" Carbon data structure. Although interfaces may differ, a trivial adapter wrapper should be sufficient.
> There should be support for most idiomatic usage of advanced C++ features. A few examples are templates, overload sets, attributes and ADL.
> Non-goals
> Never require bridge code
> Support for C++ exceptions without bridge code
https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang/blob/trunk/do...