> I don't think there could be any way to win over somebody with prejudices this strong.
Yes, I have long prior experience of Perl 5 - it was the first non-BASIC language I learned, and from 1995 through about 2010 the language I used for almost everything both at work and at home.
That I have learned from both that experience and what followed, and that not all the conclusions I've drawn from it are favorable to either that language or its successor, you are of course welcome to describe as "prejudice" if you like.
> Nor am I certain if "worse is better" is a good paradigm to act upon.
The phrase was originated by Richard Gabriel during his time as the head of Lucid Inc. Are you at all familiar with the history behind it? Theirs is an honorable enough example, but also one I'd be very concerned to find myself following.
> The whole point is that not all software development has to be about reading code more than writing it, and maintaining the same heap of code for eternity.
You do realize, I hope, that saying stuff like this doesn't really make the "write-only language" cavil that's dogged Perl throughout its history seem any less fair...
> Once again, I'm not saying that I hold the absolute truth, I am saying, however, that you are neglecting a lot of possibilities.
And once again I am saying you have failed as yet to convince me those possibilities might offer productive benefit, especially when I have yet to see the theoretical advantage of language flexibility in microservices materialize in practice.
I'm not saying that means it's impossible it ever will. I am saying that means you have a high bar to clear in making the argument for Raku's particular fitness - but that doesn't seem to be the argument you are trying to make, anyway.
Instead you seem to plead language flexibility in microservices more or less as an excuse, on the idea that niche languages for which knowledgeable engineers are rare as hen's teeth face no barrier here because, after all, you can always throw the code away and write more. And that is not convincing, except inasmuch as I'm finding it hard to imagine by this point you have experience with the costs involved in building production software.
(Also, what's so insulting about being called a partisan? Your partiality is by this point very obvious.)
Yes, I have long prior experience of Perl 5 - it was the first non-BASIC language I learned, and from 1995 through about 2010 the language I used for almost everything both at work and at home.
That I have learned from both that experience and what followed, and that not all the conclusions I've drawn from it are favorable to either that language or its successor, you are of course welcome to describe as "prejudice" if you like.
> Nor am I certain if "worse is better" is a good paradigm to act upon.
The phrase was originated by Richard Gabriel during his time as the head of Lucid Inc. Are you at all familiar with the history behind it? Theirs is an honorable enough example, but also one I'd be very concerned to find myself following.
> The whole point is that not all software development has to be about reading code more than writing it, and maintaining the same heap of code for eternity.
You do realize, I hope, that saying stuff like this doesn't really make the "write-only language" cavil that's dogged Perl throughout its history seem any less fair...
> Once again, I'm not saying that I hold the absolute truth, I am saying, however, that you are neglecting a lot of possibilities.
And once again I am saying you have failed as yet to convince me those possibilities might offer productive benefit, especially when I have yet to see the theoretical advantage of language flexibility in microservices materialize in practice.
I'm not saying that means it's impossible it ever will. I am saying that means you have a high bar to clear in making the argument for Raku's particular fitness - but that doesn't seem to be the argument you are trying to make, anyway.
Instead you seem to plead language flexibility in microservices more or less as an excuse, on the idea that niche languages for which knowledgeable engineers are rare as hen's teeth face no barrier here because, after all, you can always throw the code away and write more. And that is not convincing, except inasmuch as I'm finding it hard to imagine by this point you have experience with the costs involved in building production software.
(Also, what's so insulting about being called a partisan? Your partiality is by this point very obvious.)