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I can’t get over how clunky Python 3 is getting. Does anyone like working with type hinting in Python? All of my code is typed but compared to basically every other type system the process was far more painful than it should have been.

Even years later I still keep printouts of the typing documentation next to me so I can save time when I invariably need to look up the multiple ways you can define ‘T’ when it would just be ‘class Foo<T>’ in almost any other language. I never have this problem C++/C#/TypeScript. I’d love to see type hinted Python look more like TypeScript.

I use Python every day and I like it less and less as it gets more of the features I want/need to use. I want types, I want generics, I want abstract classes, I want enums, I want interfaces. But I don’t want to have to import all of those features from modules when they should be built into the language itself.. When they’re built into the syntax of practically every other language that supports them.

When was the last time you saw a `Protocol` in the wild? Just add interfaces.

Teaching Python to a new developer is a ridiculous experience. There are just too many, usually half-baked, ways of doing things. Even this article, which does a great job going over some of Python’s newer/more advanced features, doesn’t use the latest version of the syntax or the generic versions of most types.

If I didn’t have such a massive investment in Python I would have moved to Rust by now. And don’t me wrong, I love Python, I want to use it. I just wish it would stop eating its tail.

Let’s just do a Python 4. Even if it means another decade long 2/3 adoption foot dragging.

parent miiiiiike 3 years ago

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