> If developers have to be the ones carefully calculating estimates and managing expectations then there's really no purpose to middle-management.
Op is not saying that having estimates is useless, but rather it should be a management task rather than a developers burden.
To me, that sounds even worse, but I do think devs are expected to do wider and wider tasks across the business. Their post reeks of resentment against management and PMs and I don't blame them. Especially in my experience, I have worked with PMs that I have no idea what they do as devs need to step in to do all project management related tasks themselves
Op is not saying that having estimates is useless, but rather it should be a management task rather than a developers burden.
To me, that sounds even worse, but I do think devs are expected to do wider and wider tasks across the business. Their post reeks of resentment against management and PMs and I don't blame them. Especially in my experience, I have worked with PMs that I have no idea what they do as devs need to step in to do all project management related tasks themselves