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Ask HN: Can you trust a Chinese phone after replacing the OS?

Xiamoi makes some amazing phones at an affordable price point. They also tend to use flagship Snapdragon processors and release the device tree and kernel source making third party ROM support much easier.

I would like to buy one of these phones with the intent of installing ASOP or lineageOS. I don't mind maintaining the kernel branch myself and backporting fixes. I understand that there are proprietary blobs that run in userspace but I would trust these as I would get them from Snapdragon's official BSP website: codeaurora. I would remove anything that isn't necessary.

Since I am very nice in this field, I had a few questions:

1. Is it possible for Xiamoi to place a hardware backdoor? Or would this be near impossible to do at a large scale especially when using an American SoC?

2. I notice that the firmware for various chips are loaded from the Android image on boot. I assume this is because it's cheaper and allows firmware to be updated. Are there any components in a normal phone where the firmware in some read only flash? This would mean flashing a new ROM/OS would not remove this firmware.

Please note, I am looking for reasonable security. I am not a target in any way so it's unlikely I would be targeted specifically. I just don't like the idea of backdoors and/or malware calling home.

3 points open1414 4 years ago 7 comments

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