> They don't want the rate to be low, they want it to be zero
I'm not sure what the problem is with that. Of course mistakes happen but it should be the goal.
The red team also seems to have less of those "oopsie I just killed you" moments, so perhaps that might color things there.
And then you go on to the far end that calls for abolishing police/prisons and make that the general team blue zeitgeist. There's low hanging fruit of reform that needs more focus, e.g., not using police for mental health emergencies.
Anyway, your framing of the situation as a non-conversation is kind of meta -- it feels like you talked right past the problems.
I'm not sure what the problem is with that. Of course mistakes happen but it should be the goal.
The red team also seems to have less of those "oopsie I just killed you" moments, so perhaps that might color things there.
And then you go on to the far end that calls for abolishing police/prisons and make that the general team blue zeitgeist. There's low hanging fruit of reform that needs more focus, e.g., not using police for mental health emergencies.
Anyway, your framing of the situation as a non-conversation is kind of meta -- it feels like you talked right past the problems.