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> One obvious drawback is that you have to flip the coin a 1000 times to produce the first unbiased random bit, while Neumann's method starts producing bits much earlier.

Definitely. Though you could fix that problem relatively easily.

I think you might even be able to run von Neumann's method first, but store the coin flips; and then once you've got enough stored, extract a few more bits from the already used flips.

Perhaps like this:

When you do two flips, you add one of three possible tokens to your list:

'double-heads', 'double-tails' or 'mixed'.

Crucially, you only store 'mixed' and not whether it was 'head-tails' or 'tails-heads' because that information was already used to produce the von-Neuman-bit.

After your list has 1000 entries, you run an algorithm a bit like what I originally described to extract bits. The complication is that the table you construct has all possibilities of shuffling a fixed number of 'double-heads', 'double-tails' or 'mixed' tokens.

parent eru 4 years ago

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