A few months back I was talking to a manager at [huge established software company]. He was making the case that obviously anyone who has moved away from the Bay Area should have their pay cut. He personally has not been in the office for a single day since spring 2020, but since he telecommutes from Berkeley rather than Omaha, he sees no reason to cut his own pay.
Later that same day I spoke to someone who's managing at [online payment processing company]. Shortly after bragging that he frequently spends only 2 hours a day actually working, he expressed that full-time remote work will never work out because you can't tell if someone is actually contributing. I refrained from pointing out that ICs actually have targets to meet and code to produce, and that you can put them on a PIP if they fail to meet expectations, while he's busy proving that management can apparently get by just phoning in to the occasional meeting.
edit: company names changed because it feels a little weird to call them out like that, I dunno
Later that same day I spoke to someone who's managing at [online payment processing company]. Shortly after bragging that he frequently spends only 2 hours a day actually working, he expressed that full-time remote work will never work out because you can't tell if someone is actually contributing. I refrained from pointing out that ICs actually have targets to meet and code to produce, and that you can put them on a PIP if they fail to meet expectations, while he's busy proving that management can apparently get by just phoning in to the occasional meeting.
edit: company names changed because it feels a little weird to call them out like that, I dunno