> And I and many others are not. You should recognize that this is a _political_ issue where there is no objectively better outcome
Luckily the rich are a minority and this is a majority rule system :)
There is 100% an objectively better outcome. Better care for more people, fewer people falling through the cracks is objectively better. There are objective rankings of healthcare system quality.
> Higher taxation has long run drags on innovation and wealth building.
And not dying if a small business owner gets sick has a long run boost to the economy. Individuals being able to take risks without fear of death and pestilence has a long run boost to the economy. A carpenter having all their fingers re-attached instead of just some of them has a long-run boost to the economy. Small and mid-size businesses not having to administer health plans is a boost to the economy.
> I'm okay with that if it means I have more job opportunities and ability to build my wealth.
You'll still have your chance lol.
> I wouldn't accept a 2 month average wait time for something as simple as cataract removal, that's for sure.
Cataracts develops slowly over a period of years. It's explicitly one of the lowest priority surgeries you can get for that reason. It took you 10 years to develop you don't need it out by Monday, late February is fine. (NOTE: In some provinces your data shows you can get it out in 2 days in Canada). It's nuts to think that you should be able to pay more to get your decades old cataract out by Monday so that someone who was in a car accident can get in line lol.
So yeah you absolutely would, and you wouldn't care at all.
Either way, America will almost certainly land on a two-tier system where you can still get your way.
> The quality of life loss in that time is immense. This is exactly the reason progressives can't get any legislation passed in Congress.
It's simply not. Sorry. Data and satisfaction surveys disagree, but also - only for the few who can afford to jump the queue. There's very few of those so they're not really represented in surveys.
> Good luck passing any legislation over the lobbying of the AMA then.
Single payer in Canada passed explicitly against the wishes of the entire North American medical establishment. "The organized medical establishment was not nearly so reticent and mounted a ferocious propaganda campaign fronted by the local College of Physicians and Surgeons with the support of the Canadian Medical Association (CMA), the AMA, the local economic elite and most of the media in the province." [1]
We got it done before, we'll get it done again.
You've been fed a crock. Sorry.
[1] https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/the-birth-of-med...
Luckily the rich are a minority and this is a majority rule system :)
There is 100% an objectively better outcome. Better care for more people, fewer people falling through the cracks is objectively better. There are objective rankings of healthcare system quality.
> Higher taxation has long run drags on innovation and wealth building.
And not dying if a small business owner gets sick has a long run boost to the economy. Individuals being able to take risks without fear of death and pestilence has a long run boost to the economy. A carpenter having all their fingers re-attached instead of just some of them has a long-run boost to the economy. Small and mid-size businesses not having to administer health plans is a boost to the economy.
> I'm okay with that if it means I have more job opportunities and ability to build my wealth.
You'll still have your chance lol.
> I wouldn't accept a 2 month average wait time for something as simple as cataract removal, that's for sure.
Cataracts develops slowly over a period of years. It's explicitly one of the lowest priority surgeries you can get for that reason. It took you 10 years to develop you don't need it out by Monday, late February is fine. (NOTE: In some provinces your data shows you can get it out in 2 days in Canada). It's nuts to think that you should be able to pay more to get your decades old cataract out by Monday so that someone who was in a car accident can get in line lol.
So yeah you absolutely would, and you wouldn't care at all.
Either way, America will almost certainly land on a two-tier system where you can still get your way.
> The quality of life loss in that time is immense. This is exactly the reason progressives can't get any legislation passed in Congress.
It's simply not. Sorry. Data and satisfaction surveys disagree, but also - only for the few who can afford to jump the queue. There's very few of those so they're not really represented in surveys.
> Good luck passing any legislation over the lobbying of the AMA then.
Single payer in Canada passed explicitly against the wishes of the entire North American medical establishment. "The organized medical establishment was not nearly so reticent and mounted a ferocious propaganda campaign fronted by the local College of Physicians and Surgeons with the support of the Canadian Medical Association (CMA), the AMA, the local economic elite and most of the media in the province." [1]
We got it done before, we'll get it done again.
You've been fed a crock. Sorry.
[1] https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/the-birth-of-med...