Again, America is not the only country in the world and is not the country that I was talking about when I said "beef in countries where it's not a problem".
> Most americans consume way more meat than what they could possibly need and they do it because they've heard they need lots of protein
I doubt that's true. Meat has always been rich people's food, especially beef, and people like consuming like rich people.
> which could come from many other sources besides dead animals
Is the problem ecological or moral here? If the dead animals were more efficient than the other sources (which they sometimes are), would it still be a problem?
> Most americans consume way more meat than what they could possibly need and they do it because they've heard they need lots of protein
I doubt that's true. Meat has always been rich people's food, especially beef, and people like consuming like rich people.
> which could come from many other sources besides dead animals
Is the problem ecological or moral here? If the dead animals were more efficient than the other sources (which they sometimes are), would it still be a problem?