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Comment by d--b

I am sorry but as an application developer, I think this is all wrong. I'll thank my infra team today for not being assholes like this guy.

1. Application developers are your users. If we application developers took offense every time a user tells us that things are not working, we'd be pretty pissed off all the time. Educating and empathizing with your users is part of your job.

2. Talking about how it was better before: QA teams sure do buffer a lot of crap. They also cost a bunch and slow down time to release. Yes agile is causing problems. The bureaucracy and stiffness of organizations before agile was no nirvana either.

3. By your own affirmation you treat applications as black boxes that should be deployed using a runbook that should just work. This is ridiculous. Application's ownership is shared between everyone who works on it.

4. And yes, as developers, networking or physical drive space are things that we tend to abstract away. Maybe if the infrastructure people were involved in development discussion earlier, they'd be able to raise their hands and say: wait a minute, you're going to blow up our logs.

This all feels like someone who used to not do anything suddenly being asked to take part in what's happening...

EDIT: apologies for the strong language and sounding like an asshole myself, but I certainly feel irritated when someone takes the time to write a 5000-word article complaining about whiny developers who thought they could own ops but actually don't know anything and scream for help when they themselves are the cause of all evil.

parent d--b 5 years ago

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