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US military intelligence already believes that they don't need warrants; they've decided (in a secret, internal opinion) via the (again, secret) FISA court that the FISA Amendments Act, section 702, permits them to retrieve data on anyone they like directly from the service providers, even if those people are suspected of no crime, and are citizens/residents of the US. This has been going on for fourteen years, since Microsoft became the first partner in the program on (lol) 11th September, 2007, and started giving them dumps of people's hotmail email boxes and such.

It's the #1 source for NSA reporting, eclipsing even their bulk cable wiretaps. They can hit a button and get Google Takeout, but for all major US online services, for anyone they choose, no warrant required.

These sorts of headlines pretend that their "normal" way of spying does require warrants. It absolutely does not.

A lot of people seem to still carry the misconception that the FISA orders (again, not warrants, no probable cause, issued by a classified court (also run by US military intelligence) that never denies a request) are only for foreigners ("foreign" is right in the name). That's also not true: they use it to target US citizens too.

This specific circumstance was cited by Ed Snowden as one of the main reasons he came forward and told everyone that this was happening.

https://www.eff.org/702-spying

The participants in this system as of 2013: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, Apple.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/pr...

parent sneak 5 years ago

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