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Since everybody is so hyped about Julia, I took on learning it and using it in one of my pet projects. The use case seemed to be perfect for Julia: financial portfolio optimization.

But honestly, it is a royal pain in the ass to use. Mostly because tooling is so crappy (no decent IDE).

For example, I've made these notes on my journey with Julia:

- Juno and VSCode julia is a pain

- Debugging is pain - no watch expressions (but debug> works)

- Works like with matlab (workspaces, designed for the single script use-cases)

- Long registry lookup times (2-5mins) when starting a new session

- No hints from IDE (Juno) on what methods are available for which types

- Ctrl-click navigation does not work to lookup definitations in libraries

- Debugger does not show the full list of elements - there are triple dots in the middle

- Filters and maps are not lazy

- Arrays start at one

- Precompilation times can take 1-2min

- Package management is done as a part of script execution

- Delay (0.5-1s) when processing commands (compilation?)

- Editors (Juno) do not check types at runtime when the information is readily available

- Include() includes (is this PHP all over again?) a file into the script!

- Reuses same REPL between different files

- DataFrames.jl: Transform does nonsense (use map instead)

- DataFrames.jl: No transpose

Obviously, there is a bunch of good things like freakin insane speed and vectorized method calls are awesome, but I struggle seeing myself becoming more producting than Python + Pandas.

It's really a shame that language is strongly and semi-statically typed yet no tooling is making a use of that.

parent tasubotadas 6 years ago

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