He lets people run their mouths for hours. That means they run out of talking points, realize they're going in loops, and sometimes say something worthwhile. He has on some people who really are just awful, but even they succumb to the banality of their own nonsense. Some of them turn out to have no substance after that, but sometimes they surprise you.
I listened to a few episodes, but don't find that his guests surprise me enough to sit through it.
I listened to a few episodes, but don't find that his guests surprise me enough to sit through it.