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Comment by bluerobotcat

I don't think debating counterfactuals is a productive way to have this discussion.

I also want to point out that the reason I mentioned Gui Minhai was to counter the claim that escaping the grip of China was a simple matter of moving abroad.

With respect to this original topic, there are also various examples where Chinese who moved abroad are threatened either by phone calls from China (with reference to their family) or by Chinese agents (presumably) in the new country. (I could list some if you want, but I assume you're familiar with them.)

These are things that the US does not really do.

But, yeah, US's track history in foreign policy is terrible. But China has its own take on terror and it's not pretty by any means. If you care about things like democracy or freedom of speech I will assert that China is emerging as the bigger threat by far.

(I take terror to refer to the systematically frightening people with the threat of violence, to make them behave in a certain way.)

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