> As a white man, you lost me completely there.
I'm not the OP but you've lost me as well. What part of what you're saying is supported by data? Any data?
> In fact, you are reviling (immigration, foreigners) the very thing that gave rise to the west as it is now.
What gave rise to the USA were productive people creating a country for themselves and preventing other people from immigrating there. Immigration was mostly limited to other anglos.
One of the most remarkable things happened in Africa, I forget exactly where, where an unbelievably high number of 160IQ+, 170IQ+ school children were found whose parents had immigrated from Britain.
What you had in the USA were a high concentration of these outlier geniuses and other very productive people that made a new nation for themselves.
> The history of the white man is filled with taking ideas and solutions from other cultures and races they encounter and building on them, essentially the same thing you're accusing China of doing unfairly.
Is this not a ridiculous statement? The history of the "white man" is filled with producing outlier geniuses that are costly to those around them but benefit the group. These geniuses go their own way, they don't take ideas from others. You don't see these kinds of geniuses elsewhere, for reasons I forget.
> Slavery, abuse, theft and centuries of using and discarding anything and anyone we can to get ahead is a significant part of our history
I'm fairly certain that the consensus among those that have looked into slavery in the USA is that it was nothing but detrimental, slowing down progress. The slaves were well fed and made to work little. Children have been made to replicate the daily work of a slave in the USA and have done it with no issue.
It shouldn't come as a surprise to you to learn that the very people that ended slavery are the same people that treated their slaves well.
The slaves that freed themselves before slavery ended integrated surprisingly well, much better than the rest that gained their freedom later. Maybe an IQ difference between those capable of setting themselves free and those not.
> Immigrants, especially second and third generation immigrants often have stronger ties to the country the immigrated to and are more willing to fight for it and die for it as numerous studies ahve shown.
It's a recognized problem in Europe that second and third generation immigrants from the middle eastern countries are integrating worse than their parents.
I don't know man, everything you're saying just seems made up from the spot.
I'm not the OP but you've lost me as well. What part of what you're saying is supported by data? Any data?
> In fact, you are reviling (immigration, foreigners) the very thing that gave rise to the west as it is now.
What gave rise to the USA were productive people creating a country for themselves and preventing other people from immigrating there. Immigration was mostly limited to other anglos.
One of the most remarkable things happened in Africa, I forget exactly where, where an unbelievably high number of 160IQ+, 170IQ+ school children were found whose parents had immigrated from Britain.
What you had in the USA were a high concentration of these outlier geniuses and other very productive people that made a new nation for themselves.
> The history of the white man is filled with taking ideas and solutions from other cultures and races they encounter and building on them, essentially the same thing you're accusing China of doing unfairly.
Is this not a ridiculous statement? The history of the "white man" is filled with producing outlier geniuses that are costly to those around them but benefit the group. These geniuses go their own way, they don't take ideas from others. You don't see these kinds of geniuses elsewhere, for reasons I forget.
> Slavery, abuse, theft and centuries of using and discarding anything and anyone we can to get ahead is a significant part of our history
I'm fairly certain that the consensus among those that have looked into slavery in the USA is that it was nothing but detrimental, slowing down progress. The slaves were well fed and made to work little. Children have been made to replicate the daily work of a slave in the USA and have done it with no issue.
It shouldn't come as a surprise to you to learn that the very people that ended slavery are the same people that treated their slaves well.
The slaves that freed themselves before slavery ended integrated surprisingly well, much better than the rest that gained their freedom later. Maybe an IQ difference between those capable of setting themselves free and those not.
> Immigrants, especially second and third generation immigrants often have stronger ties to the country the immigrated to and are more willing to fight for it and die for it as numerous studies ahve shown.
It's a recognized problem in Europe that second and third generation immigrants from the middle eastern countries are integrating worse than their parents.
I don't know man, everything you're saying just seems made up from the spot.