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> With increased atmospheric CO2, plants grow faster and end up with a much higher calorie:micronutrient ratio.

Citation please.

> We also consume vast quantities of industrial waste products now like "vegetable oil", HFCS and soybean by-products.

Naturalistic fallacy. "Industrial waste" isn't necessarily harmful.

> Famine wasn't as common as you seem to think it was, unless you include impoverished states, in which case famine is killing more people now than it was back then.

"More people" is an irrelevant metric, what matters is the percentage of people relative to the total. That's a meaningful measure of progress.

> We suffer plenty of nutritional deficiencies

Such as?

> and we suffer huge amounts of diet caused diseases like "type 2 diabetes" and osteoporosis.

The latter of which was either common back then also, or uncommon because they didn't live long enough to develop it. As for type II diabetes, it's a disease of abundance, which proves my point. You can't overeat if you don't have enough to eat.

> They were producing significant surpluses of food, enough to feed massive armies.

That often starved during campaigns.

> And while they worked hard in spring and fall, they essentially had summer and winter as vacation time. They had more holidays/vacation time than modern Americans do.

During which they had to ration food, developed nutritional deficiencies, and died of exposure. Some vacation. You're awfully selective about how you compare "like to like".

> We literally have hundreds of thousands of people killing themselves entirely because they have no social bonds.

Citation please.

Also, there is very little real data on historical suicide rates [1,2]. It consists mainly of conjecture from the writings of artists at the time, like Dante speaking about hell and suicide. So your claims that modern rates are higher are also pure conjecture.

[1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-...

[2] http://psychiatry.queensu.ca/assets/Synergy/synergyfall12.pd...

parent naasking 8 years ago

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